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Warning: The following contains spoilers for Sunday Zoey’s excellent playlist finale. Proceed at your own risk!
Zoey’s excellent reproduction list ended its first season on Sunday with a finale that was very big with tears and full of music that continued… and constantly… and beyond. In fact, the final act of the episode was a seven-minute musical shot that was taken in a continuous shot as the camera was woven through Mitch’s awakening. The stunning “American Pie” show, which includes the entire cast of the show, put an emotional end to a season in which Zoey said a disappointing goodbye to her father… and probably opened her heart to BFF Max, whom she eventually kissed.
Below, showrunner Austin Winsberg analyzes the creation of the music oner and wonders how Zoey’s grief will complicate her relationship with Max and Simon.
TVLINE | There were a lot of really painful music numbers, especially in terms of the story with Mitch. What were you looking for in the song selections for this episode?
First of all, I didn’t want everything to be so sad that people felt like we were abusing them or hitting them hard on the head. (Laughter) There were some worries on the road that if we had too many sad songs and too many numbers in the series they felt really, really depressing that it would become a note or it would feel like torture porn or something like that.
When my father died, a hostel came to our house at four in the afternoon and said, “Your dad is going to die today,” and then he left. We stayed on our own devices to understand what to do. The next eight hours at my house were spent with friends and family and people coming to say their last goodbyes. Initially, I had imagined this last episode as the whole episode that took place in the project before Mitch died. As we broke it, it was just incessantly sad and it was hard to make the episode feel active or also an episode that looked like the rest of our show and I still wanted it to feel like our show. So when we got away from this idea, I found, I hope, a balance where I could still show a little bit of lightness and move on with the love triangle and things with Joan and other parts of the story, and create some comedy. and leniency in the show, and then downgrade its saddest part in the second half of the episode.
“Lullaby (Goodnight, My Angel)” is a song by Billy Joel that I have loved for a long time and it is a song that I have always loved for my children. I always knew I wanted to have a goodbye song with David and Emily and the baby, and that song, I knew it from the beginning, was what I wanted. But this is a really sad song. So I knew I couldn’t do too much sadness with the songs after that. Then, when we had this idea for “American Pie” and to do a whole act that is just a song, that idea happened very early, actually. I was talking to our production director Adam Davidson in episode 2, and we were talking about what fun ways we could make musical numbers on the show, and Adam said, “What if we did an entire act that was a song?” “I really liked the idea and realized that it could be really satisfying if the final act of the season was all one number. There aren’t a lot of songs that are big enough that they can make it work and feel right. “American Pie” is my father’s favorite song. When I was thinking about this song, and also the idea of the day the music died, it felt a lot like what Zoey would feel, because so much light and love and music came from her father So painful, and it also felt like something that could be a big finale where you could get everyone together and sing. Because the show is also musical, I was looking for, “What’s our big musical finale for the season?” I felt like he checked a lot of boxes.
TVLINE | How hard was it to find a song that would also fit every character in this final act? I was so impressed with how well the lyrics match the characters at certain points.
(Laughter) Thank you. Most of the numbers on the show – maybe all the numbers on the show – are important to me that are basically lyrically matched to what’s going on in the story. Either they reveal something about the character or they move the plot forward. And that number actually makes a break for some of what we call Zoe-ality rules on the show, because I find it more like a tone poem than Zoey’s literal thing to see a person sing the song right now. And also, we never have songs to be made for a period of time. They always happen either by blinking or during the two minutes of the song we do. This song takes place in the passing hours… I agree that there are definitely moments that largely parallel what is happening in their lives. I remember the first time I heard it in my car like, “Oh, that could work for Simon, it could work for Mo.” I was happy for those moments where it really worked, and then there are other moments where it may not be connected exactly, but I felt that the feeling behind it was what was connected, and so I was okay with it not perfectly lyrical.
TVLINE | How difficult was it to pull, technically? And what went into the merging process?
Incredibly difficult. It was definitely an all-hands-on-deck process. It started with Mandy Moore and I, our choreographer, the way she always starts, with her and we talk about how we want her to feel, what happens to the number. We always knew it would be an exchange from person to person. I had a kind of definition on the page, for the most part – that could have changed a bit – who was singing what. So we edited how it would work and who would sing it. And then it was up to Maddie to come out and figure out, both on stage and in the rehearsal studio, what the actual passage of the lens would be like. Then our director Jon Turteltaub collaborated with us and then we brought in Brad Crosbie, who was the steadicam operator, because much of it is about camera movement and frame.
Then there was a dance between many different sections, because we had 75 extras in this scene that everyone had to move in a certain way and move from room to room. We start with 75 people at home at the beginning, and only four people at home at the end. We had to work with hairdressers and our production designers, because we had to make sure that the feeding looked like a certain way, but then also in one shot the feeding is all on the dining table and then on the next shot, supposedly it will it’s an hour and a half later, (and) there’s no food on the table. And with our lighting department because it had to go from day to night.
Well, there were so many departments working together to create the result and make it all work out in this seamless seven-minute shot that, in fact, it almost seemed like a piece of live theater in this space. Fortunately, we had the opportunity, where we don’t always have the opportunity, to rehearse it many times. It was really created in a period of two weeks, and we did a lot of other things, and if memory serves, we may have had the opportunity to spend a day off to work on all the logistics of that number.
TVLINE | Do you remember how many it took until you understood them perfectly?
Believe it or not, we’ve managed to get six. Because we had a very good rehearsal and did it many times, we ended up doing only seven. We all felt great about getting six, and then we did one more to make sure, if there were any problems, we would need six.
TVLINE | And it is true; Isn’t it difficult to process?
No. The interior of the house is located in a sound room and the exterior of the house we turned outside and brought some rain. So the only treatment is from outside the house to get inside the house. But the second time you are in the house, there is no cut.
TVLINE | The number also ends in this very painful and different kind of note with Zoey singing the acapella alone. Why did you decide to end the finale at that moment?
This show is about Zoey and I wanted to be with her, alone, for this last part of her. I always like every opportunity for Zoey to sing, and because we’re in a more non-verbal place there, I felt like we were experiencing something that felt like I really wanted to end the season with the lyrics, “The day the music died.” She felt sorry for me that she would come from her, and also to know that we are on this journey with her. When we get back to this family in the end, it also looks like a look at Season 2 and what follows, because how did this group of people who had this favorite person mean so much to them, how do they move on? And what does life look like when tragedy strikes, after an injury to a family? To leave them alone in the room, especially on the couch, with this empty space on the couch, which was the place where he sat so much during the season λώς I just remember that there was a very specific space on the couch where my dad was always. The moment he was no longer there, and yet this couch was still there, he was so attuned to me and it was such a powerful image for me that I just wanted to live in it and be with Zoey for the end of it.
TVLINE | There have also been some developments on the love triangle front. What exactly has changed for Zoey when it comes to her feelings for Max?
During the last episodes of the show, Max really found his own confidence and strength. I know there were a lot of “Team Max senders and fans who liked Max who was sweet and there for Zoey, but some of them were to the detriment of his company. It was important for him to get some distance from Zoey and find something that was good for him. He really went out there until the middle of the season, making the big flash and confirming his love for her, and in order not to admit it back, and also to have feelings for Simon, it was difficult for him. So he had to create his own space and find his own success outside of Zoey to gain his confidence and from episode 12, when he gets his job back and says he doesn’t want it back, it’s really this idea to I look forward. I think he has been disappointed during the season with Simon spending a lot of time looking back and living in the past. And Max’s idea is to be that confident character who is really excited about the future and really excited about what’s to come, who just mixes something up with Zoey and is able to see it beyond being that type. who was there for her and really love and care for her, also claims his own strength and independence and finds it so attractive. This is one of the things that helps her see him in a different light than the light of a friend who has put her so far.
TVLINE | He is still deeply connected to Simon. We even see him telling her dad, somewhat well, that the man who works at her job now likes her. So where does Zoey’s heart go when it comes to the two men in her life?
I definitely wanted to keep it open in Season 2 and I didn’t want it to be final that he had made a choice for one or the other. I still want to say that they are both good, who are both sustainable in their own way. The fact that he sees Max in a more romantic light, but also with Simon returning to episode 12 and actually starting his own personal development and working on himself, will continue to create different choices and challenges for season 2. I didn’t do it. I don’t want to go all the way to Team Max or Team Simon until the end. But there are, we hope, some questions about what will happen and certainly with the death of her father, which will also affect where she is, emotionally, and what she is going to be ready for by season 2.
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